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Post  d3st1nyliang on Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:01 pm

anyone know of past year's lines?
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Post  khfreakau on Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:25 pm

chrisk wrote:
khfreakau wrote:@chris, nah we're not getting our booklets, Savage says that they're in E-FORM this year. How stupid. It's already on the school website and Savage has copies for herself methinks.

Most schools have already implemeted an E-FORM system for subject selections. OUR SCHOOL HAS FINALLY CAUGHT UP WITH THE TIMES (for one little thing)

khfreakau wrote:The biggest upside is no IST cheers

I wonder if Mr F is going to read that...

Nah, cause we have an assignment due then xD
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Post  belle~ <3 on Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:27 pm

khfreakau wrote:
chrisk wrote:
khfreakau wrote:@chris, nah we're not getting our booklets, Savage says that they're in E-FORM this year. How stupid. It's already on the school website and Savage has copies for herself methinks.

Most schools have already implemeted an E-FORM system for subject selections. OUR SCHOOL HAS FINALLY CAUGHT UP WITH THE TIMES (for one little thing)

khfreakau wrote:The biggest upside is no IST cheers

I wonder if Mr F is going to read that...

Nah, cause we have an assignment due then xD

Which everyone has err totally done. >.>
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Post  d3st1nyliang on Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:58 am

so what r the actual procedures for determining lines?
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Post  simmonsn on Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:25 am

d3st1nyliang wrote:so what r the actual procedures for determining lines?

Let me try and explain;

Step 1: You guys select from all the different subjects to give us some idea of what is popular in your grade and what is not.

Step 2: I enter all of your selections into my computer (thank goodness for barcoding), and then my computer and I crunch the numbers.

The computer comes up with suggestions, but being a computer it doesn't always get it right, so I tweek it a bit.

Step 3: We (Principal/Deputies/HT's)look at how many subjects we can afford to run, taking into account tings like available staff, the number of rooms we would need (remember there are another 5 years that have to be taught as well!!!) and attempt to maximise the number of students getting their choices.

Steps 2 & 3 sort of go backwards and forwards a bit, as we try to come up with the best solution.

Step 4: The subjects get placed into lines, some people are happy and unfortunately some are upset, but unfortunately the number of permutations when 180 people are choosing subjects is quite large, so someone will be disappointed.

Hope that gives you some idea.
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Post  chrisk on Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:31 am

simmonsn wrote:
d3st1nyliang wrote:so what r the actual procedures for determining lines?

Let me try and explain;

Step 1: You guys select from all the different subjects to give us some idea of what is popular in your grade and what is not.

Step 2: I enter all of your selections into my computer (thank goodness for barcoding), and then my computer and I crunch the numbers.

The computer comes up with suggestions, but being a computer it doesn't always get it right, so I tweek it a bit.

Step 3: We (Principal/Deputies/HT's)look at how many subjects we can afford to run, taking into account tings like available staff, the number of rooms we would need (remember there are another 5 years that have to be taught as well!!!) and attempt to maximise the number of students getting their choices.

Steps 2 & 3 sort of go backwards and forwards a bit, as we try to come up with the best solution.

Step 4: The subjects get placed into lines, some people are happy and unfortunately some are upset, but unfortunately the number of permutations when 180 people are choosing subjects is quite large, so someone will be disappointed.

Hope that gives you some idea.

Makes sense Very Happy

simmonsn wrote:but unfortunately the number of permutations...

PERMUTATIONS FTW Very Happy http://virtualb15.edublogs.org/2009/06/29/permutations-i/
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Post  simmonsn on Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:36 am

chrisk wrote:
simmonsn wrote:
d3st1nyliang wrote:so what r the actual procedures for determining lines?

Let me try and explain;

Step 1: You guys select from all the different subjects to give us some idea of what is popular in your grade and what is not.

Step 2: I enter all of your selections into my computer (thank goodness for barcoding), and then my computer and I crunch the numbers.

The computer comes up with suggestions, but being a computer it doesn't always get it right, so I tweek it a bit.

Step 3: We (Principal/Deputies/HT's)look at how many subjects we can afford to run, taking into account tings like available staff, the number of rooms we would need (remember there are another 5 years that have to be taught as well!!!) and attempt to maximise the number of students getting their choices.

Steps 2 & 3 sort of go backwards and forwards a bit, as we try to come up with the best solution.

Step 4: The subjects get placed into lines, some people are happy and unfortunately some are upset, but unfortunately the number of permutations when 180 people are choosing subjects is quite large, so someone will be disappointed.

Hope that gives you some idea.

Makes sense Very Happy

simmonsn wrote:but unfortunately the number of permutations...

PERMUTATIONS FTW Very Happy http://virtualb15.edublogs.org/2009/06/29/permutations-i/

Very good, nice to know people are listening!
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Post  Sharon den Adel on Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:41 am

Perms and Combs, yay! Razz

Interesting explanation.
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Post  khfreakau on Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:12 pm

Ah Mr Simmons, what is this program that you use to determine all of this?
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Post  simmonsn on Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:35 pm

Its just a combination of the Timetable package we use at school (First class), a Filemaker database I wrote, an excel spreadsheet and the grey matter(because computers are not people, and there are some things that they just don't understand)
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Post  NSiriwardena on Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:41 pm

simmonsn wrote:Its just a combination of the Timetable package we use at school (First class), a Filemaker database I wrote, an excel spreadsheet and the grey matter(because computers are not people, and there are some things that they just don't understand])

Computers don't know how to love.
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Post  d3st1nyliang on Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:52 pm

so, we just have to choose subjects that don't clash..right?
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Post  simmonsn on Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:57 pm

d3st1nyliang wrote:so, we just have to choose subjects that don't clash..right?

I guess that summarises it very nicely.
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Post  jchou on Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:47 pm

What happens if you really want to do the subject but it clashes with other subjects? Question
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Post  NSiriwardena on Thu Jul 09, 2009 3:48 pm

jchou wrote:What happens if you really want to do the subject but it clashes with other subjects? Question

Chances are you can't do it unless the same happens to others (which I doubt will).
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Post  jchou on Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:22 pm

But what happens if you REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLYREALLY REALLYREALLY REALLYREALLY REALLYREALLY REALLYREALLY REALLYREALLY REALLYREALLY REALLYREALLY REALLYREALLY REALLYREALLY REALLYREALLY REALLYREALLY REALLYREALLY REALLYREALLY REALLYREALLY REALLYREALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY want to do it? Question Question Question
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Post  simmonsn on Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:39 am

jchou wrote:What happens if you really want to do the subject but it clashes with other subjects? Question

Then it doesn't clash with other subjects, other subjects clash with it.

In other words, yuo choose the subject tha tyou really want to do. At some point you may have to make a decision between two subjects, again, coose the one that you really want to do.
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Post  skaiwalker on Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:50 pm

Yeah Electronics didn't run in year 9 and 10, so I got to do food tech instead =D. In retrospect, that was probably a good thing.
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